TLP488: From Fleeting Moments to Sustained Momentum

Interview

Tlp488 From Fleeting Moments. Bernie Banks is a professor and institute leader at Rice University and co-author of “The New Science of Momentum: How the Best Coaches and Leaders Build a Fire from a Single Spark,” As a Brigadie

s a Brigadier General, he led West Point’s Department of Behavioral Sciences and Leadership in his final military assignment.

In this episode, Bernie decodes how fleeting moments morph into sustained momentum. Drawing on eight years of research, over 250 interviews and thousands of survey responses across sports, business, politics and the military, Bernie shares a tried-and-true model leaders can use to spark movement, sustain it, and redirect it when needed.

Momentum doesn’t happen by accident—it’s built through small wins, clear culture, situation-readiness, and intentional follow-through. Whether you’re leading a team, an organization, or your own career, listen in for practical tools to recognize the early spark, harness the energy, and turn it into a flame that drives real progress.

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[03:27] Bernie explains the book originated from the 2017 Super Bowl when the Patriots came back from 28-3 to win against the Falcons.

[06:39] Bernie explains momentum is overlooked because people view it as common sense rather than a vital leadership skill.

[08:23] Bernie outlines the momentum model starts with leadership setting culture, then moving into preparation where leaders actively seek to generate momentum.

[11:29] Bernie uses Nvidia as an example, explaining they made strategic decisions long ago to prepare for the AI revolution.

[14:05] Bernie emphasizes ‘culture is not what you talk about, it’s what you tolerate, it’s what you reinforce.’

[15:35] Bernie shares Alan Mulally telling a disruptive Ford executive they needed a transition conversation because those behaviors wouldn’t be tolerated.

[19:23] Bernie quotes Warren Buffett on hiring: look for smart, driven, and principled people, never hiring someone high on the first two without the third.

[21:57] Bernie explains hiring depends on whether you need to maintain or innovate.

[25:05] Bernie advises being open and honest with people about gaps they’ll have to address for the new reality.

[27:39] Bernie explains momentum requires both managers who optimize systems and leaders who produce change.

[30:36] Bernie notes the most effective leaders were high on both people and results orientation.

[33:17] Bernie discusses the Pygmalion study, stating people rise to the level of expectations when leaders show vested interest in their well being.

[34:51] Bernie explains he replaced ‘failure’ with ’embrace challenge’ because failure has negative connotation and finality.

[37:23] Bernie emphasizes intentionality matters, explaining legacy means our story will be told by others, not ourselves.

[41:44] Bernie closes stating ‘momentum is leader business’ and the book is designed as a how-to guide with immediate actions.

[44:30] And remember…“The world is wide, and I will not waste my life in friction when it could be turned into momentum.” – Frances E. Willard

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Quotable Quotes

“Culture is not what you talk about. It’s what you tolerate. It’s what you reinforce.” Share on X

“Results are one thing, but the how matters.” Share on X

“Momentum is not something they stumbled upon. It was something they actively sought to generate.” Share on X

“People will rise to the level of your expectations so long as they believe you have a vested interest in fostering their well being and that you’re equipping them to meet those expectations.” Share on X

“In the best organizations, accountability is the word, and in many organizations, accountability is a bad word.” Share on X

“Challenges can lead to opportunities, and we can always learn things along the way as we push through challenges.” Share on X

“Legacy comes from the Latin word legatus, which means people, person, delegated, which means our story will not be told by self.” Share on X

“Be intentional. The great leaders are.” Share on X

“Momentum is a leader business.” Share on X

“A core obligation of every leader is to put their people in a position to win.” Share on X

“You don’t put people in a position to win by watering down expectations.” Share on X

“Wherever there’s a challenge, there’s an opportunity.” Share on X